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Mar 11, 2016 19:20:42 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 19:20:42 GMT -5
I vote for redraw, same way we decided this order. One more vote for a redraw or the commissioner's decision, I'd assume? MILB Draft Order: Redraw-5 Reverse Order-3
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Mar 11, 2016 19:22:04 GMT -5
Post by bfirebird on Mar 11, 2016 19:22:04 GMT -5
I posted earlier...maybe the 10th round ish...that to look at the espn draft rankings thread/link and if a player is on there with projected stats they could be picked. Giolito has no projected stats. Got it. I missed that part of the stipulation when I read it. I did read your explanation but somehow missed the projected stats part. I will switch to Tyler Glasnow SP Pit. He does have projected stats.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:22:18 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 19:22:18 GMT -5
Even then, it makes zero sense. MILB draft for players that haven't played in the MLB should be the hard line. The way you suggest has to many problems with it so we will stick with what LTBF posted earlier and again above. Many problems? Either they've played in the MLB or not? You'll see, there will be many arguments over who's eligible or not.
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Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 19:25:30 GMT -5
Just trying to help Condor, I've been in many of these leagues, just trying to keep it simple.
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Post by LetTheBallFly on Mar 11, 2016 19:25:54 GMT -5
The way you suggest has to many problems with it so we will stick with what LTBF posted earlier and again above. Many problems? Either they've played in the MLB or not? You'll see, there will be many arguments over who's eligible or not. We can always change it going forward into future seasons. It's not too hard to check to see if ESPN has projected stats for a player. We only have essentially a round and a half left and only 2 players were really in question.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:27:44 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 19:27:44 GMT -5
Wow.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:28:28 GMT -5
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Post by Riggity Riggity Wrecked on Mar 11, 2016 19:28:28 GMT -5
The way you suggest has to many problems with it so we will stick with what LTBF posted earlier and again above. Many problems? Either they've played in the MLB or not? You'll see, there will be many arguments over who's eligible or not. Using your method and last years draft, no one would have been able to draft Bryant, Devon Travis, Micah Johnson, Carlos Rodon, Correa, etc. All of those players either started from opening day or very close to it. In hindsight we probably should have done the MILB draft first, but I think the rule is pretty clear and addresses most of the questions.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:29:15 GMT -5
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Post by LetTheBallFly on Mar 11, 2016 19:29:15 GMT -5
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Mar 11, 2016 19:36:53 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 19:36:53 GMT -5
Many problems? Either they've played in the MLB or not? You'll see, there will be many arguments over who's eligible or not. Using your method and last years draft, no one would have been able to draft Bryant, Devon Travis, Micah Johnson, Carlos Rodon, Correa, etc. All of those players either started from opening day or very close to it. In hindsight we probably should have done the MILB draft first, but I think the rule is pretty clear and addresses most of the questions. You're right, the MILB draft should've went first, shit happens.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:50:09 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 19:50:09 GMT -5
Joshua Strong is up, correct? He selected an owned player.
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Post by Riggity Riggity Wrecked on Mar 11, 2016 19:52:04 GMT -5
Joshua Strong is up, correct? He selected an owned player. Correct, I sent him a couple texts explaining everything.
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Mar 11, 2016 20:04:00 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 20:04:00 GMT -5
I've got one more question fellas, sorry lol. So saying as per example: Glasnow was just selected in the MLB draft, he isn't able to be sent down to the minors, right?
Edit: He'd be subject to waivers if dropped?
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Post by LetTheBallFly on Mar 11, 2016 20:11:26 GMT -5
I've got one more question fellas, sorry lol. So saying as per example: Glasnow was just selected in the MLB draft, he isn't able to be sent down to the minors, right? Edit: He'd be subject to waivers? Good question...the way I have it, is if he is sent to the minors he could be optioned to the MILB team, but someone from the MILB team would have to be dropped
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Mar 11, 2016 20:15:47 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 20:15:47 GMT -5
I've got one more question fellas, sorry lol. So saying as per example: Glasnow was just selected in the MLB draft, he isn't able to be sent down to the minors, right? Edit: He'd be subject to waivers? Good question...the way I have it, is if he is sent to the minors he could be optioned to the MILB team, but someone from the MILB team would have to be dropped Final answer, have you asked your brother?
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Mar 11, 2016 20:25:32 GMT -5
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Post by Riggity Riggity Wrecked on Mar 11, 2016 20:25:32 GMT -5
I've got one more question fellas, sorry lol. So saying as per example: Glasnow was just selected in the MLB draft, he isn't able to be sent down to the minors, right? Edit: He'd be subject to waivers? Good question...the way I have it, is if he is sent to the minors he could be optioned to the MILB team, but someone from the MILB team would have to be dropped I agree with LTBF. If a guy from your MLB roster is sent to the minors then you can send him to your MILB Roster and drop one of your players that you currently had on your MILB roster
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Mar 11, 2016 20:44:05 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 20:44:05 GMT -5
Good question...the way I have it, is if he is sent to the minors he could be optioned to the MILB team, but someone from the MILB team would have to be dropped I agree with LTBF. If a guy from your MLB roster is sent to the minors then you can send him to your MILB Roster and drop one of your players that you currently had on your MILB roster Okay, thanks fellas.
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Mar 11, 2016 20:47:08 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 20:47:08 GMT -5
I have an AL only draft in 45 minutes, I'll be back after, in case things pick up. Cheers guys, enjoy your weekend.
8 Leagues, I'm an addict.
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Mar 11, 2016 20:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by joshuastrong on Mar 11, 2016 20:56:14 GMT -5
I'll take Fransisco Cervilli, sorry bout the mixup
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Mar 11, 2016 21:16:57 GMT -5
Post by blackmooncreeping on Mar 11, 2016 21:16:57 GMT -5
What if Glasnow, or any other Milb player with 'projectable stats' gets drafted but he doesn't make the opening day MLB roster and starts the season in AAA? You shouldn't be able to keep a MiLB player on your MLB roster if he isn't in MLB yet imo. And if the player does start the season in the minors, whoever picked him basically has trumped the Milb draft and added a top Milb player to his Milb roster before that draft has even taken place. Maybe this could be worked into our Milb draft somehow, like if you pick a guy who has projected stats but no MLB service time, you have to pick after those that haven't drafted such a player. If redraw is the call, we can redraw from those that have all MLB players on their roster and then all owners would pick. Does any of that make sense
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Mar 11, 2016 21:22:57 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 21:22:57 GMT -5
What if Glasnow, or any other Milb player with 'projectable stats' gets drafted but he doesn't make the opening day MLB roster and starts the season in AAA? You shouldn't be able to keep a MiLB player on your MLB roster if he isn't in MLB yet imo. And if the player does start the season in the minors, whoever picked him basically has trumped the Milb draft and added a top Milb player to his Milb roster before that draft has even taken place. Maybe this could be worked into our Milb draft somehow, like if you pick a guy who has projected stats but no MLB service time, you have to pick after those that haven't drafted such a player. If redraw is the call, we can redraw from those that have all MLB players on their roster and then all owners would pick. Does any of that make sense See above...
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Post by blackmooncreeping on Mar 11, 2016 21:31:06 GMT -5
Ok, just skimmed back...just seems like there's no risk to pick one of the 'projected stats' guys, you can just dump him to your Milb roster if he doesn't make it. If you can draft a guy who hasn't played a single pitch in MLB, you should have to keep him on your MLB roster for the first 2 weeks to 1 month of the season regardless of whether he makes the opening day team or not imo. Otherwise we could start our Milb draft and the top 10 guys with projected stats wouldn't be eligible because they'd be stashed on MLB rosters, despite never having played MLB.
Not trying to beat a dead horse, just thinking this thru a bit is all...
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Mar 11, 2016 22:09:46 GMT -5
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Post by Riggity Riggity Wrecked on Mar 11, 2016 22:09:46 GMT -5
Ok, just skimmed back...just seems like there's no risk to pick one of the 'projected stats' guys, you can just dump him to your Milb roster if he doesn't make it. If you can draft a guy who hasn't played a single pitch in MLB, you should have to keep him on your MLB roster for the first 2 weeks to 1 month of the season regardless of whether he makes the opening day team or not imo. Otherwise we could start our Milb draft and the top 10 guys with projected stats wouldn't be eligible because they'd be stashed on MLB rosters, despite never having played MLB. Not trying to beat a dead horse, just thinking this thru a bit is all... I do understand the flaw in the way we did this. Next year there shouldn't be a problem bc we will do the MILB draft first. So far it appears no one has tried to take advantage of the way the draft has been set up. We only have 1 and a half rounds left so hopefully we won't have any more issues. Basically we are all pretty knowledgeable about who will be playing this year and who will just be a September callup at best. For the players who have been drafted I have another idea but I want to hear everyones opinion on it. We start the MILB draft on April 4th. If a player does not break camp with their MLB club then the team that owns that player will have 2 options. 1. Release the player and they will be available to everyone for the MILB draft or 2. The player becomes your draft pick at their projected rankings. So for example if a player is the 21st ranked propect but did not break camp with their team you can still keep him but you will lose your 3rd round pick in the MILB draft.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:21:22 GMT -5
Post by blackmooncreeping on Mar 11, 2016 22:21:22 GMT -5
I'm cool with the way you described it above; it makes as much sense as we can out of it. Probably much ado about nothing but good to air it out.
Let's get this MLB draft moving--who is up?
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Mar 11, 2016 22:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by LetTheBallFly on Mar 11, 2016 22:24:40 GMT -5
Round 24-Pick 5: Jean Segura On the Clock: Tdubbz
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Mar 11, 2016 22:32:37 GMT -5
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Post by bfirebird on Mar 11, 2016 22:32:37 GMT -5
Ok, just skimmed back...just seems like there's no risk to pick one of the 'projected stats' guys, you can just dump him to your Milb roster if he doesn't make it. If you can draft a guy who hasn't played a single pitch in MLB, you should have to keep him on your MLB roster for the first 2 weeks to 1 month of the season regardless of whether he makes the opening day team or not imo. Otherwise we could start our Milb draft and the top 10 guys with projected stats wouldn't be eligible because they'd be stashed on MLB rosters, despite never having played MLB. Not trying to beat a dead horse, just thinking this thru a bit is all... I do understand the flaw in the way we did this. Next year there shouldn't be a problem bc we will do the MILB draft first. So far it appears no one has tried to take advantage of the way the draft has been set up. We only have 1 and a half rounds left so hopefully we won't have any more issues. Basically we are all pretty knowledgeable about who will be playing this year and who will just be a September callup at best. For the players who have been drafted I have another idea but I want to hear everyones opinion on it. We start the MILB draft on April 4th. If a player does not break camp with their MLB club then the team that owns that player will have 2 options. 1. Release the player and they will be available to everyone for the MILB draft or 2. The player becomes your draft pick at their projected rankings. So for example if a player is the 21st ranked propect but did not break camp with their team you can still keep him but you will lose your 3rd round pick in the MILB draft. Why would keeping them on your MLB roster not be an option? Berrios was taken in the 16th round and probably won't make the big club. That is pretty high of a pick to give up to keep his rights to send him to MILB roster. What if LTBF would rather keep him on his active roster.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:55:44 GMT -5
Post by Spanky on Mar 11, 2016 22:55:44 GMT -5
You can't change shit now? I was told final answer, c'mon Condor. It was final, no?
You both said so. Either that or you go back and rip players off there roster, I knew this would be an issue and called it.
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Mar 11, 2016 23:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by blackmooncreeping on Mar 11, 2016 23:16:11 GMT -5
I do understand the flaw in the way we did this. Next year there shouldn't be a problem bc we will do the MILB draft first. So far it appears no one has tried to take advantage of the way the draft has been set up. We only have 1 and a half rounds left so hopefully we won't have any more issues. Basically we are all pretty knowledgeable about who will be playing this year and who will just be a September callup at best. For the players who have been drafted I have another idea but I want to hear everyones opinion on it. We start the MILB draft on April 4th. If a player does not break camp with their MLB club then the team that owns that player will have 2 options. 1. Release the player and they will be available to everyone for the MILB draft or 2. The player becomes your draft pick at their projected rankings. So for example if a player is the 21st ranked propect but did not break camp with their team you can still keep him but you will lose your 3rd round pick in the MILB draft. Why would keeping them on your MLB roster not be an option? Berrios was taken in the 16th round and probably won't make the big club. That is pretty high of a pick to give up to keep his rights to send him to MILB roster. What if LTBF would rather keep him on his active roster. To play the other side, why would someone keep a player on his mlb roster that isnt in the bigs yet? Just burning a roster spot it seems...
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Mar 11, 2016 23:18:30 GMT -5
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Post by LetTheBallFly on Mar 11, 2016 23:18:30 GMT -5
You can't change shit now? I was told final answer, c'mon Condor. It was final, no? You both said so. Either that or you go back and rip players off there roster, I knew this would be an issue and called it. I don't think anyone has an issue and it's just adding to what we said earlier. Since we didn't get the MILB draft done in correct order it's kind of fix the issues as we go on.
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Mar 11, 2016 23:26:17 GMT -5
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Post by bfirebird on Mar 11, 2016 23:26:17 GMT -5
Why would keeping them on your MLB roster not be an option? Berrios was taken in the 16th round and probably won't make the big club. That is pretty high of a pick to give up to keep his rights to send him to MILB roster. What if LTBF would rather keep him on his active roster. To play the other side, why would someone keep a player on his mlb roster that isnt in the bigs yet? Just burning a roster spot it seems... Because then he only used one draft pick instead of two for a player.
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Mar 11, 2016 23:29:00 GMT -5
Post by chisoxfanmike on Mar 11, 2016 23:29:00 GMT -5
I'm so confused.
Can someone please explain what's going on here?
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